Confusion and miscommunication

Debate

Sage'sSong wrote:((So you admit that it was darkness then. So it COULD have been an umbrakinetic god, contrary to what you JUST said. And I JUST read it and there is NO denying that darkness was the cause, and you just said it was! So you're going back on your own statement))

£China'sAllieCat£ wrote:((Actually an umbrakenetic one couldn't nor could an actual sickness or sight god... Because Tobias tried taking away the dark and something would have happened if it had been that... Same with the sight gods, and the sickness ones would have caused Darius to notice an illness... Which narrows it down to "she is blind but not from darkness or from illness or from injury or from light taken away...

No... I just stated that the darkness was not there... That it wasn't actually darkness. I said the darkness she sees is a delusion... Which means it has to be caused by something that creates delusions... She saw darkness like when someone sees people that aren't there... I have in the past stated that Lilith also sees better in somewhat dark places while light hurt her before she was given the protective pendant on her necklace she always wears... I also stated that her ability and energy shows itself as darkness... So when Tobias was pulling away the "darkness" the only darkness there... He was literally unintentionally pulling away her energy and powers...

Actually, you didn't state that it was a delusion until today in out of game knowledge. And it was already established that the energy within her was a dark energy, not darkness itself... You know what, I'm done. It doesn't even matter. There's no point in trying to make people make sense

Yes... I didn't state it was a delusion until today because I wasn't going to literally hand you the answer... I thought that considering they were seeing a path that couldn't exist etc I thought someone would maybe think... Huh... A path like this couldn't and doesn't exist in camp.... But they are in camp and they are sure that they are in camp...so how are they seeing something that couldn't be there... Oh! It must be a vision or a delusion... Then when she went blind and Tobias tried to pull the darkness away ((I did say when her powers came out it appeared to be a dark smoke or dark vines... Meaning that it was dark in color... He was pulling at darkness... Just like when he pulled the darkness away from her when she was in the cave and it hurt her because it was pulling at the darkness within her....)) it hurt and he pulled away any possible darkness that might cloud her eyes but yet she still saw only darkness.... So if there is no darkness that is blocking her eyes and no medical problems that are causing her to see darkness then it has to be a mental thing rather than physical... Mental would mean visions dilutions and that kind of thing... I'm sorry you don't understand what I'm saying... I don't know how to word it so you can understand what I'm saying... All I can tell you is that it makes sense because I can picture what people describe... I see the images... And then from those images i simply connect facts from what I know to be true from reading greek mythology and from what I know of psychology and mental conditions... My brain does the spider web connection thing and it fits together... But I can see if someone didn't picture each of the things I mentioned, use knowledge of the camp layout; make the connection between the darkness being taken from her eyes but her still seeing darkness —revealing it to therefore not being physical darkness— and the fact that the only other darkness that can occur is within the mind; then think about the fact that Lilith led Tobias into what they saw to be a rough path and that she was the one who was suggesting they enter the ominous "trail" (actually delusion) and the one that led was the one that became blind, didn't check for any correlation that might have to do with greek, blindness and, —since something was mentally causing her to see darkness that is simply a figment of her imagination(a delusion) it would have to be:— a creature or a god... how without actually formulating and taking what I believed would be easy steps [to find out that a god of sorts was the cause] it would be very difficult to understand... But if the clues were all put together there was just barely enough evidence to conclude that a god or creature had inflicted her with blindness not of medical or darkness origin...

I apologize for the confusion... My brain processes things in a different way... That is why complex equations are simple to me and simple equations are nearly impossible for me to solve.